You do not leave! Zombie and RonDog!!!!!!

Anyone who did not want our head quit sign this message! You do not leave! !!!!!!!

RonDog and Zombie!!!! 4ever!!!! (my vote!)

anyone sign this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is choice of clan no other clan (scuse private)

yall should stay as leaders

Is ur turn Vote and sign! my outbox is full

well if ron HAS to leave, so be it, but, mike has no real reason to leave
and he still has to help with the awards forum, which...i may not make, or i will let someone else head it

thx man!!!

LEAVING !! I wish it were not so.

The IF~Clan is well respected as one of the finest Clans in Halo, and this is a direct result of your efforts and leadership abilities. We are a Clan of fighters, warriors, a band of brothers who respect each other and our allies, and yes, even the fallen foe is treated fairly, due to your influence and leadership.

Losing the two of you as Leaders is going to hurt, badly. I trust in your good judgment in choosing replacements and in completing their training before you leave.

I can truthfully say that I have given the both of you some tense moments, due to my impatience and rather contrary nature. Yet, like true Leaders, you patiently set me back on the right path and headed in the right direction. It would have been easy to have abused your authority and “crushed me like a bug” but how would that have benefited the Clan, or myself?

You put aside personal feelings and let your inner strength and innate leadership qualities shine through. You have done what few others have done before you - you have earned my respect.

“You cannot choose your battlefield, God does that for you; but you can plant a standard where a standard never flew.” Stephen Crane (1871-1900)

My best wishes for your continued good health and success in your future endeavors.

I am honored to have known you, and to have served under your command.

Semper Fi, RonDog and Zombie !!

I.. I gotta say I say no to this. Ron and Mike have served this clan for a long time, and that must have been tiring and rough job. This is hard for me.. But we must let them go, if they want. They´ve served the IF clan good, rewarding us with their leadership. Now they´ve came to the crossroad, they have other things to do. Lets let them go to their own paths. Let us reward them for all the serving and let them go.. It hurts... But think about it. =/

We must continue! We must not give up! There is a small chance! If you give punishment to continue we will succeed! If you abandon this will be your fault! I'm going to fight for it still! I will do my best! If it does not stay, I do not myself feel guilty for their loss! then let's do it in force and continue our best to help a stay! I'll try to go see the old and continue until my expultion clan for you. If I succeeded, but I do not expel at least I would have serious succeeded! And if I expel me and I do not succeed at least I try! So help me! If you find a way to give me a Xfire or e-mail to reach at least a back I'll be very happy then help me! go go guys!!!!!!!!!!!

Well Mj.. I loved that post and Silence I loved yours too. But guys. I will am still going to be here just not active. I am still going to show up on the server every now and then. And I will reply to post from time to time. Guys you all have my e-mail so We will never lose Contact.

I understand your judgement Silence but I'm on the clan since 2 weeks and I saw a lot of things about the clan leader and that is that I saw in Rondog was tired of me and Zombi but it also gave me back on the right path. There are still a little but I know he did not want to go I've seen since the 2 weeks it would go something but I also knew he did not want to leave so I want it remains as it wishes so I will not give up!

I really do not be afraid to expel me!

IF~Silence» wrote:

I.. I gotta say I say no to this. Ron and Mike have served this clan for a long time, and that must have been tiring and rough job. This is hard for me.. But we must let them go, if they want. They´ve served the IF clan good, rewarding us with their leadership. Now they´ve came to the crossroad, they have other things to do. Lets let them go to their own paths. Let us reward them for all the serving and let them go.. It hurts... But think about it. =/

That's true. Thank you silence

ha ok... for u!

I knew that you wanted to stay Zombie but Rondog I still want that too continu to sign up guys and vote!

I love RonDog also

carnage, as a friend, im ASKING you to calm down and get this thing youre doing under control, as a sergeant, i COMMAND you to do so

kirby2....layin down the law, thatta boy!

Our Leaders have, for reasons of their own, made this most difficult decision to relinquish their leadership of our Clan. If we trust their judgment at all, then we should trust them now. They leave, not in anger, but to pursue new opportunities and to face new challenges in their lives. As they now enter this new phase in their lives we should all be supportive of them, and their decision.

It hurts us, to be sure. But, if we respect our Leaders, we should rally around them and be supportive, not second-guess them or belittle their decisions. It hurts them, I am sure, to leave; and they’re working hard to find suitable replacements before they leave. They still care for the IF~Clan, we will still be in their hearts and minds, we are not forgotten by them. They care as much for us as we do for them, but the sad fact is they are leaving.

Honor them for their past service, congratulate them on the new opportunities opening before them, be supportive of them in every way possible, and stop hounding them for their leaving.

They have acquired a new title now, “Founders.” Honestly earned and well deserved. “Living Legend” would serve just as well, but is a bit too pretentious.

“Founders” fits well, and let’s all know who is responsible for the creation of the IF~Clan, who brought us to the heights we are at now, and who will ALWAYS be a lifetime member of this Clan, no matter their distance or the passage of time.

All honors to RonDog and Zombie! They represent the best we have to offer, the best of who and what we are, and are a shining example of what hard work and dedication can accomplish.

“The leader for the time being, whoever he may be, is but an instrument to be used until broken and then to be cast aside; and if he is worth his salt, he will no more care when he is broken than a soldier cares when he is sent where his life is forfeit in order that the victory may be won. In the long fight for righteousness, the watchword for all of us is spend and be spent. It is a little matter whether one man fails or succeeds; but the cause shall not fail, for it is the cause of mankind.” Theodore Roosevelt

RonDog and Zombie have given us their all, and asked for little or nothing in return. Now let us show our respect and admiration for them by being supportive of them, in what must be a trying time for them, as well as for us.

“It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.” General George S. Patton, Jr., June 7, 1945

I have served under two of the finest Leaders of any Clan in Halo. They have earned my respect, and now I show them the respect of honoring their decisions to depart without argument, second-guessing, or anger.

It is the duty of each of us to obey, to render obedience and respect until their final departure; then to give our unswerving obedience and respect to our new Leaders. Such is the life of an IF~Clansman. To do any less is to dishonor yourself, your Clan, and the memories of our past leaders.

“I have made it the rule of my life to ask no official favors, but to await orders and obey them. Such is an officer’s duty and his best policy.”
Admiral David G. Farragut, 1857

I mean it.. We CANNOT force them to stay. What does the clan IF mean to you, Carnage? Is it all about forcing the members to stay? Is it all about making a commitment you cannot let go? No. I think we must have FREEDOM. Zombie and RonDog have really dedicated to this clan and us. About RonDog.. I remember when I talked to Zombie once.. We we´re talking about the dedication for the clan, and what should we understand for that we cannot be active. He said that real life always comes first in this clan.
Now, RonDog has to make his next move. In REAL LIFE. Do you think that he would keep this clan more important than maybe his whole future? Probably no. And that is right! The clan should not take away the chance to let go. Sometimes you HAVE TO let go. I believe RonDog has left the clan. That was the RIGHT choice, wasn´t it?
And Zombie... Zombie has been served this clan tirelesly from all over the beginning, like did RonDog. Now, when RonDog, Zombie´s right hand, is gone, Zombie has really rough times. He must feel like numb, like he´ve lost one of his senses. RonDog was a great leader just like Zombie. Like, try to do some hard job with someone, and then when the other one leaves, see how slow you are now? Zombie was a really good friend with RonDog, and this clan connected them, it must be so much fun to lead a clan with a friend. Now, as I said many times before, RonDog is gone. Now Zombie feels the slowliness in his movements. He lost a collegian, he´s only one, a friend, and a GREAT guy. He´s maybe alfraid. Alfraid of that can he lead the clan by himself, without the helping hand, the one who´s place cannot be filled by ANYONE. He is getting tired. He is carrying the clan all by himself, and that is a heavy carriage. Let our Zombie rest. Set him free before he totally burns out. But Zombie, If you´re reading this.. I want you to know that I understand the feeling you have after loosing RonDog. You must feel to be so alone, have so many players to guide all by yourself. But RonDog wasn´t your only helper. If you want to stay, I think the whole IF is ready to give you some help on your clan problems. You can give us some more responsebility to make your carriage lighter. You can always trust in us. Am I right, IF members?? We can ALL keep this clan up. Not just you, Zombie. No one cannot fill the place that RonDog left, but.. I don´t know about others. But I am ready to even try that. how about others? Will we help Zombie in case he stays??

IF~Kirby2 wrote:

carnage, as a friend, im ASKING you to calm down and get this thing youre doing under control, as a sergeant, i COMMAND you to do so

in my experiance you can ask someone to stop and they will consider it, order them to do so and it increases their desire to continue. carnage is going a little overboard, but you must respect his passion and his determination. he is trying to convince his friends and leaders from leaving and he isnt afraid of expulsion for trying. youve got to admit kirby, having that kind of friend at your back, in my opinion, is better than the largest army. i understand rons and zombies need to leave, but for them to have inspired such loyalty in a friend such as they have is nothing short of amazing.

good luck guys!!

Those posts.....silence and mjolnir, were the best posts on the entire website.

i will stay, but i need everyone's help........you're help to whoever is reading to make this clan work, rondog was..........an excellent leader...i wish i could say more, but i can't do it, he is excellent, and yes, the Real Life does come before the clan. I NEED HELP. The New Leader and the new co-leader MUST help me out. A clan is alot of work,.......thank you



IF~Zombie

shoot, i know exactly what your saying, but, he needs to stop efore something bad happens, or at least he needs to slow down.